Legislature(2015 - 2016)CAPITOL 106

03/15/2016 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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               HB 344-DRUG PRESCRIPTION DATABASE                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:48:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 344, "An  Act relating to the controlled substance                                                               
prescription database; and providing for an effective date."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:48:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VAZQUEZ moved  to  adopt  the proposed  committee                                                               
substitute (CS) for HB 344,  labeled 29-LS1378\N, Bruce, 3/14/16,                                                               
as the working draft.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON objected for discussion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:49:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TANEEKA HANSEN,  Staff, Representative Paul Seaton,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, stated that this version  added a seven day limit to                                                               
initial opiate  prescriptions; it  limited the  prescription drug                                                               
monitoring  program  to only  Schedule  II,  III, and  IV  drugs;                                                               
changed  the reporting  requirement for  the database  from "near                                                               
real time" to "at least  weekly;" changed the mandatory review of                                                               
the  database   from  only  dispensers  to   include  dispensing,                                                               
prescribing,  or  administering  of controlled  substances,  with                                                               
some  exceptions;  restricted  the  delegation  of  authority  or                                                               
access or  the ability to  submit information to the  database to                                                               
only licensed  or registered  employees; directed  the Department                                                               
of  Commerce,  Community  &  Economic  Development  to  establish                                                               
registration fees to  cover the costs of data  base operation, if                                                               
no  federal  grants  are   established;  and  changed  transition                                                               
language  to  give  regulatory authority  to  the  Department  of                                                               
Commerce,  Community   &  Economic   Development,  with   a  more                                                               
immediate effective date.   She paraphrased from  the "Summary of                                                               
Changes: Version H to Version  N" [included in members' packets],                                                               
which read:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Title                                                                                                                    
     On lines 2- 4 the title has been expanded to include                                                                       
     'relating to the prescription f opiates; relating to                                                                       
     the practice of dentistry; relating to the practice of                                                                     
     medicine; relating to the practice of nursing;                                                                             
     relating to the practice of optometry; relating to the                                                                     
     practice of veterinary medicine' to reflect the                                                                            
     inclusion of seven day prescription restriction.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1-12                                                                                                             
     New sections 1-12 were added to limit opiate                                                                               
     prescriptions under the following boards; dentistry,                                                                       
     medicine, nursing, and optometry. Under each board, an                                                                     
     initial opiate prescription is limited to seven days                                                                       
     unless the practitioner documents a logistical or                                                                          
     medical need for a longer supply, and prescriptions in                                                                     
     excess of the dosage without documented reasons can be                                                                     
     grounds for disciplinary action. Additional language                                                                       
     was added to section 1 (Board of Dental Examiners),                                                                        
     section 7 (Board of Nursing), and section 10 (Board of                                                                     
     Optometry) allowing disciplinary action if drugs are                                                                       
     dispensed, prescribed or sold drugs in violation of                                                                        
     law regardless of whether there has been criminal                                                                          
     actions. This mirrors existing language in the State                                                                       
     Medical Board (section 4).                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:53:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  asked why the  Board of  Veterinary Medicine                                                               
had been included.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSEN explained that the adult  seven day limit had not been                                                               
added   to   Board   of  Veterinary   Examiners,   although   the                                                               
disciplinary   language   had   been  added   because,   as   all                                                               
practitioners were  required to submit information  on controlled                                                               
substances to the  boards, this included the  Board of Veterinary                                                               
Examiners as  they are able to  provide opiates.  She  relayed an                                                               
anecdote  about  the increase  in  opiates  being prescribed  for                                                               
animals.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON referenced  the maximum  dosage  and asked  whether                                                               
this was  for the number of  pills prescribed or for  a milligram                                                               
limitation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HANSEN replied  that the  limitation was  for the  number of                                                               
pills, and not for the dosage level.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON reported that, although  some states had limited the                                                               
milligrams per pill  as recommended by the CDC, the  focus of the                                                               
proposed  bill  was  a  concern  for  opioid  addiction  and  the                                                               
duration of the prescriptions.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:56:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSEN moved  on to address Section 13 and  Section 14, which                                                               
read:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 13                                                                                                               
     This new section adds language to the Board of                                                                             
     Veterinary Examiners allowing disciplinary action if                                                                       
     drugs are dispensed, prescribed or sold drugs in                                                                           
     violation of law regardless of whether there has been                                                                      
     criminal actions. This mirrors existing language in                                                                        
     the State Medical Board (section 4).                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 14                                                                                                               
     Language referencing the state controlled substance                                                                        
     schedules and federal schedules I and V has been                                                                           
     removed; this will limit the database to only drugs in                                                                     
     the federal schedules II, III, and IV. Language                                                                            
     regarding the Department of Commerce, Community, and                                                                       
     Economic Development assisting the board of pharmacy                                                                       
     with implementing the database has been moved to a                                                                         
     later section.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:57:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSEN discussed Section 15 and Section 16, which read:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 15                                                                                                               
     Language  referencing  the state  controlled  substance                                                                    
     schedules  and  federal  schedules  I and  V  has  been                                                                    
     removed; this means the database  will only be accessed                                                                    
     for drugs in the federal  schedule II, III, and IV. The                                                                    
     reporting  requirement  in  this section  has  changed,                                                                    
     from near-real-time to at least weekly.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 16                                                                                                               
     AS  17.30.200(d)(3) has  been amended  to state  that a                                                                    
     licensed or  registered practitioner  with prescription                                                                    
     authority is  allowed access to  the database.  This is                                                                    
     intended   to   capture    practitioners   in   federal                                                                    
     facilities that  are not required  to be  licensed with                                                                    
     the state but that may be registered.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:59:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSEN addressed Section 19, which read:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 19                                                                                                               
     Language  directing dispensers  to access  the database                                                                    
     prior to  dispensing and to report  the prescription at                                                                    
     near  real  time has  been  deleted  and replaced  with                                                                    
     subsections  k (3),  k  (4), and  k  (5) requiring  all                                                                    
     practitioners   to   check   the  database   prior   to                                                                    
     dispensing, prescribing, or  administering schedule II,                                                                    
     III,   or  IV   controlled   substances  but   creating                                                                    
     exemptions for emergent  situations, surgery or medical                                                                    
     procedures.   This  section   also  creates   alternate                                                                    
     procedures   for   practitioners   with   technological                                                                    
     barriers, previously included in a later section.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:00:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSEN directed attention to Section 20, which read:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 20                                                                                                               
     The language previously in subsection (o), creating a                                                                      
     technology exemption, has been moved to section 18.                                                                        
     The remaining subsections have been reordered.                                                                             
     Subsection (p) (previously subsection q) has been                                                                          
     amended to reflect that the database has been limited                                                                      
     to only schedule II, III, or IV controlled substances.                                                                     
     A new subsection (q) has been added to state that a                                                                        
     practitioner may only delegate database access or                                                                          
     information submittal to an agent or employee who is                                                                       
     who is licensed or registered in the state.                                                                                
     Subsection  (r)  directs  the Department  of  Commerce,                                                                    
     Community,  and  Economic  Development to  notify  each                                                                    
     board when  a practitioner registers with  the database                                                                    
     (previously  required of  the Board  of Pharmacy).  The                                                                    
     Board of  Veterinary Examiners was added  to assist the                                                                    
     Board  of   Pharmacy  in  implementing   this  section,                                                                    
     language  that was  previously  under AS  17.30.200(a).                                                                    
     Additionally,    the    department   shall    establish                                                                    
     regulations for  registration with the  database, which                                                                    
     will cover the  cost of the database  minus all federal                                                                    
     funds.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:02:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSEN discussed Section 21, which read:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 21                                                                                                               
     The transition  regulatory authority has  been expanded                                                                    
     from  just the  Board of  Pharmacy to  now include  the                                                                    
     Department   of  Commerce,   Community,  and   Economic                                                                    
     Development  and each  board  whose  licensees will  be                                                                    
     required to register.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:02:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSEN paraphrased Section 22, the new Subsection 23, and                                                                   
Section 24, which read:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 22                                                                                                               
     The  transition language  has been  amended to  require                                                                    
     the  Board  of  Pharmacy  to  provide  information  and                                                                    
     training on  this act to  the other  boards. Subsection                                                                    
     (b) has been deleted.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     New Subsection 23                                                                                                        
      New subsection 23 has been added which will enact AS                                                                      
     17.30.200(r) in September 1, 2016. This is the section                                                                     
     the Department to establish registration fees.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 24                                                                                                               
      The effective date (relating to transition language)                                                                      
     has been amended to take effect immediately.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:03:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSEN concluded with Section 25, which read:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 25                                                                                                               
       The effective date of the bill has been amended to                                                                       
     July 1, 2017.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HANSEN,  in  response  to  Representative  Wool,  said  that                                                               
previously  all state  and federally  controlled substances  were                                                               
included, whereas now it was limited  to Schedule II, III, and IV                                                               
drugs of the federal schedule.   She stated that all the drugs in                                                               
the  federal  Schedule  I  were illegal,  and  Schedule  V  drugs                                                               
included cough medicine and Tylenol with Codeine.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  relayed that  Schedule IV  included benzodiazepine,                                                               
whereas Ritalin was a Schedule II drug.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  asked for clarification  that benzodiazepine                                                               
was  previously on  the database  requirement, pointing  out that                                                               
earlier  testimony had  indicated  that it,  in combination  with                                                               
opiates,  "was a  very bad  combination."   He asked  if many  of                                                               
these drugs  would fall  into the category  for an  initial 7-day                                                               
limit to the prescriptions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSEN relayed that the  7-day limit was specific to opiates;                                                               
however,  reporting  to  the  database  included  all  controlled                                                               
substance in Schedules II, III, or  IV.  She pointed out that the                                                               
7-day limit would not apply to any refill for a chronic illness.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VAZQUEZ  asked how the  7-day limit would  work in                                                               
the rural villages.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSEN  directed attention to  Section 2 of the  proposed CS,                                                               
Version  N,  which  described  the   maximum  dosage  for  opiate                                                               
prescriptions.  Pointing to page 3, line 27, she read:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        a patient who is unable to access a practitioner                                                                        
      within the time necessary for a refill of the seven-                                                                      
     day supply  because of a logistical  or travel barrier;                                                                    
     the  licensee may  write a  prescription for  an opiate                                                                    
     for the  quantity needed to  treat the patient  for the                                                                    
     time   that  the   patient  is   unable  to   access  a                                                                    
     practitioner.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSEN relayed  that, for an adult, this would  just apply to                                                               
the initial prescription,  and if diagnosed with  a chronic issue                                                               
requiring a longer prescription, the  refills would not have this                                                               
same requirement.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:09:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSIE EDWARDSON, Staff, Representative  Paul Seaton, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  reported on  the recommendations  from Centers  for                                                               
Disease Control and Prevention (CDC),  which included that 3 days                                                               
or less was sufficient for  opiate prescriptions, while more than                                                               
7-days would rarely be necessary.   She shared that a recent bill                                                               
in Massachusetts limited initial  opioid prescriptions to a 7-day                                                               
supply, while also requiring practitioners  to check the database                                                               
for drugs which  have a high potential for abuse,  and that Maine                                                               
was working  on a  similar bill  which would  set a  3-day limit.                                                               
She stated that another CDC  recommendation was for clinicians to                                                               
review   a    patient's   history   for    controlled   substance                                                               
prescriptions.  She noted that  a CDC recommendation not included                                                               
in the proposed bill was to  limit dosage to 5 morphine milligram                                                               
equivalent (MME) daily, while limiting  any increase of dosage to                                                               
90 MME.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON pointed out that,  although CDC had also recommended                                                               
that any dosage over 90 MME  should be noted on the prescription,                                                               
the proposed bill did not include this recommendation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  suggested that the prescription  for a horse                                                               
may exceed this.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  added that federal practitioners  were not required                                                               
to be licensed  in Alaska, hence the addition  of "registered" to                                                               
the proposed bill.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:12:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON removed his objection.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
There  being   no  further  objection,  the   proposed  committee                                                               
substitute Version N was adopted as the working draft.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:13:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  moved to  adopt proposed  Amendment 1,  labeled 29-                                                               
LS1378\N.1, Bruce, 3/14/16, which read:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Page 13, lines 18 - 19:                                                                                                    
          Delete "database at least weekly [BOARD]"                                                                         
          Insert "board, at least weekly"                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 13, line 20:                                                                                                          
          Delete "[FOR INCLUSION IN THE DATABASE]"                                                                              
          Insert "for inclusion in the database"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 18, following line 3:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                      
          "(s) The board shall, on a weekly basis, update                                                                       
       the database with the information submitted to the                                                                       
     board under (b) of this section."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VAZQUEZ objected for discussion.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:13:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HANSEN explained  the proposed  amendment,  stating that  it                                                               
clarified   that  practitioners   and  dispensers   would  submit                                                               
information to the board at least  weekly, and that the board was                                                               
required to  update the database  with the  submitted information                                                               
at least weekly.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:15:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:15 p.m. to 4:17 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:17:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VAZQUEZ removed  her objection.   There  being no                                                               
further  objection, Amendment  1,  labeled 29-LS1378\N.1,  Bruce,                                                               
3/14/16, was adopted.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HANSEN explained  that  some of  the  written testimony  had                                                               
mentioned that  the requirement  for a  mandatory review  for all                                                               
controlled substances  could be  onerous for  some practitioners.                                                               
There had  been a suggestion to  limit the review of  Schedule IV                                                               
to just benzodiazepine because  of its aforementioned interaction                                                               
with  other drugs,  although further  review  had indicated  that                                                               
other Schedule IV drugs had adverse interactions with opiates.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  declared that he  wanted to ensure that  the public                                                               
comments had been considered.  He  offered his belief that it was                                                               
better, and less confusing, to  include all the Schedule II, III,                                                               
and IV drugs.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL asked  to hear  from the  Alaska Pharmacists                                                               
Association, noting that  some of the drugs in  and of themselves                                                               
were  not dangerous.  He expressed  the need  for a  database for                                                               
opiates.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  said that  public  testimony  would be  opened  up                                                               
again.  He stated that he wanted  to get the issues on the record                                                               
for consideration prior to public testimony.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HANSEN  suggested that  the  proposed  bill state  that  the                                                               
database must  be reviewed prior  to dispensing,  prescribing, or                                                               
administering  a  controlled  substance.    The  regulation  must                                                               
provide  that the  practitioner  is not  required  to review  the                                                               
information in  the database  before dispensing,  prescribing, or                                                               
administering  a  controlled  substance  for less  than  a  3-day                                                               
supply.    She stated  that  this  would include  all  controlled                                                               
substances, and  should alleviate  some of  the concerns  for the                                                               
burden.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  reflected that a  3-day supply was enough  for most                                                               
people,  and asked  whether doctors  would  prescribe the  lesser                                                               
amount.   He offered his  belief that the  issue was a  result of                                                               
too long a  course for opioid prescriptions.  He  asked for input                                                               
from the committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL mused  that  some drugs  were stronger  than                                                               
others,  and, as  not  all drugs  were measured  in  MME, it  was                                                               
difficult to micromanage the prescriptions.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON pointed  out that  this  was an  exception and,  by                                                               
controlling  the initial  prescription, was  an attempt  to limit                                                               
opioid addiction in the state.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VAZQUEZ asked for testimony from Dr. Butler.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:28:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAY  BUTLER,  MD,  Chief Medical  Officer/DPH  Director,  Central                                                               
Office,  Division  of Public  Health,  Department  of Health  and                                                               
Social  Services,  opined  that  it  was  a  difficult  issue  to                                                               
maintain access to  appropriate care for pain  yet prevent misuse                                                               
of  the drugs,  with the  unintentional  risk for  overdose.   He                                                               
suggested an  additional exemption  for a supply  of less  than x                                                               
number of days,  pointing out that the CDC  guidelines for 3-days                                                               
or  less were  often  sufficient, whereas  more  than 7-days  was                                                               
rarely  needed.   This exemption  for less  than 7-days  could be                                                               
more  acceptable  to  many  providers,  while  not  creating  any                                                               
unintentional barriers to the treatment of pain.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  mused  that  the proposed  bill  stated  that  the                                                               
initial prescription could  not be longer than  7-days, and asked                                                               
if anything under 7-days should be exempt.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BUTLER relayed  that  he was  speaking  specifically to  the                                                               
requirement  for the  review of  the database.   He  acknowledged                                                               
that this  could be  for a  shorter time  frame, although  he was                                                               
trying to  strike a  balance for not  being overly  burdensome or                                                               
creating barriers to  treatment for acute pain.  He  said that it                                                               
was   not  entirely   clear  for   prescriptions  to   outpatient                                                               
procedures in advance of the procedure.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  suggested that this  would be covered under  a less                                                               
than 3-day exemption.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VAZQUEZ asked  for clarification,  was this  less                                                               
than 3 days, or 3 days or less.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BUTLER  replied  that  there was  nothing  really  magic  in                                                               
either, that the reference had  been to the CDC guidelines, which                                                               
read, 3  days or less  will often  be sufficient in  treatment of                                                               
acute pain.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  pointed out that  this only applied to  the initial                                                               
prescription for 7-days,  not to renewals.  He  reported that the                                                               
prescriptions for  3-days or less  without refills could  also be                                                               
an  issue.   He stated  that the  exemption was  not intended  to                                                               
allow for open ended prescription refills of 3-days or less.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  asked whether  to include Schedule  IV drugs                                                               
for the mandatory database review.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR. BUTLER  reminded the  committee that  there was  an increased                                                               
risk of fatal  overdose when opioids and  benzodiazepine were co-                                                               
administered.   He shared that  many prescribers had  stated they                                                               
prescribed  Schedule IV  drugs more  frequently than  Schedule II                                                               
drugs.   He  reported  that  the 2015  annual  report had  listed                                                               
238,000  prescriptions  for  Schedule  II  and  III  drugs,  with                                                               
429,000 for  Schedules II, III,  and IV in the  Prescription Drug                                                               
Monitoring  Program   (PDMP),  even   as  the  PDMP   was  fairly                                                               
incomplete.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   SEATON  asked   for   clarification   that  the   medical                                                               
recommendations was for Schedules II, III, and IV.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR. BUTLER  stated that this  was a  difficult question.   If the                                                               
outcome were  solely to  reduce the  risk of  overdose, including                                                               
the Schedule  IV drugs made a  lot of sense; however,  in looking                                                               
at  the practicality  of what  could  actually be  done and  what                                                               
providers would  adopt and do,  there were some  reservations for                                                               
this.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked  if all the Schedule IV  drugs, such as                                                               
Robitussin for a cough or Tylenol  with codeine, would have to be                                                               
entered into the database.  He  asked whether it would be best to                                                               
include all  of them, or  limit it to  select drugs, in  order to                                                               
decrease the possible burden.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. BUTLER  clarified that Robitussin  was a Schedule V  drug, as                                                               
was gabapentin  which was  used for chronic  pain syndrome  as it                                                               
had a very low abuse potential, and both of these were excluded.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  questioned whether 3-days or  less, without refills                                                               
and  exempt from  the requirements,  would be  beneficial to  the                                                               
practice of medicine.  He asked about the risk for overdoses.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BUTLER  replied  that  this  would  be  less  burdensome  on                                                               
providers.    He stated  that  a  situation  where a  very  small                                                               
quantity  was  prescribed  had  a  lower  risk  for  overdose  or                                                               
addiction.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:42:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON opened public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:42:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARRY  CHRISTENSEN, Pharmacist,  Alaska Pharmacists  Association,                                                               
reported  that  he  was  also the  co-chair  of  the  Legislative                                                               
committee for  the Alaska Pharmacists  Association.  He  said the                                                               
association  represented   over  200  pharmacists   and  pharmacy                                                               
technicians in the  state.  He declared that proposed  HB 344 was                                                               
a  "step in  the right  direction  for helping  opiate abuse  and                                                               
prescription drug  abuse in the  State of Alaska."   He applauded                                                               
the change  from real  time to  weekly down  loads as  being more                                                               
cost  effective  and  technologically available.    He  expressed                                                               
agreement  that all  users of  the database  should be  licensed,                                                               
pointing  out that  all the  pharmacy technicians  working around                                                               
medications  were  licensed.    He  expressed  concern  that  the                                                               
requirement  for both  prescribers and  pharmacists to  check the                                                               
database  prior to  every controlled  substance prescription  was                                                               
duplicative and  time consuming.   He pointed  out that  the PDMP                                                               
was only  one tool used  by pharmacists  when trying to  rule out                                                               
possible narcotic abuse.   He pointed out that this  would have a                                                               
big impact.   He reported  that real time  prescription insurance                                                               
data  checks were  performed  when  processing prescriptions,  as                                                               
almost 90  percent of prescriptions were  done through insurance.                                                               
He stated that the 3-day prescription may have some merit.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL asked  for clarification  for the  statement                                                               
that  it  was  duplicative  for   both  the  prescriber  and  the                                                               
dispenser  to check  the PDMP  database.   He offered  his belief                                                               
that this was a good safe guard.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHRISTENSEN replied that the  pharmacists have been using the                                                               
database since its  onset, but that the best time  to utilize the                                                               
database was before a prescription  was written.  He acknowledged                                                               
that  there  were instances  when  both  should be  checking  the                                                               
database, but that professional judgement should dictate when.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL asked  which end  of the  database check  to                                                               
make optional.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CHRISTENSEN  offered  his  belief that  the  pharmacist  end                                                               
should be  optional, as  "it makes  sense that  it be  dealt with                                                               
before the prescription is written  rather than after in terms of                                                               
checking for  potential abuse by  the patient."  He  allowed that                                                               
it should  be possible for  pharmacists to double check  when "we                                                               
do have warning flags come up."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON asked  if the option for the  pharmacist to delegate                                                               
the database check would alleviate the situation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CHRISTENSEN  expressed  appreciation  for  the  option,  and                                                               
although it did help the situation, it still affected work flow.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VAZQUEZ   asked  when  it  made   sense  for  the                                                               
pharmacist to review the database.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHRISTENSEN replied that there  were several times, including                                                               
when  there  was  a  new   patient,  multiple  prescriptions  for                                                               
narcotics,  or a  large quantity  of  narcotics.   He added  that                                                               
patient refusal to use insurance also raised concerns.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  shared  the  concern   that  availability  of  the                                                               
database,  without any  requirement  to check  it,  had not  been                                                               
sufficient  to   stop  the  availability  of   many  prescription                                                               
medications.   He  reported that  the proposed  bill was  also an                                                               
attempt to include the prescribers.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VAZQUEZ asked  for his opinion about  the 3-day or                                                               
less exemption.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CHRISTENSEN  relayed  that,  although this  would  ease  the                                                               
burden "on a certain number  of prescriptions," he was unsure for                                                               
how much  it would decrease the  work load.  He  pointed out that                                                               
they would most likely have not  looked at the database for those                                                               
prescriptions anyway.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  asked if the aforementioned  "flags" were in                                                               
the database.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CHRISTENSEN  replied  that   most  flags  were  through  the                                                               
insurance  system,  reiterating that  almost  90  percent of  the                                                               
prescriptions were  processed on-line at the  time of dispensing.                                                               
He  agreed that  those  flags  would also  show  up  on the  PDMP                                                               
database.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:54:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JERRY  BROWN, Pharmacist,  echoed some  of the  earlier comments,                                                               
including   the  removal   of  pharmacists   for  the   mandatory                                                               
requirement   to   check   the  database   for   every   narcotic                                                               
prescription.   He offered his  belief that it was  not necessary                                                               
to be  checked every time.   He stated that he  had problems with                                                               
the 7-day and the 3-day  quantity, as prescribers would not check                                                               
the database.   He suggested to  use a 5-day supply  instead.  He                                                               
declared  that there  would always  be a  flag when  checking the                                                               
data  base because  of the  limited initial  prescription amount,                                                               
and that  additional time would  be spent making  a determination                                                               
for  whether this  was overprescribing  or a  restriction on  the                                                               
prescription.    He  reported that,  under  Medicaid,  the  first                                                               
pharmacist was paid a dispensing  fee for the first prescription,                                                               
but  a  second  pharmacy  did not  receive  any  dispensing  fee,                                                               
thereby being  placed at  a greater  financial disadvantage.   He                                                               
pointed  to   the  difficulties  presented  by   shorter  initial                                                               
prescriptions when  living in a  remote area.  He  suggested that                                                               
5-day prescriptions were not so onerous for the patient.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.   BROWN  said   that  exempting   emergency  rooms   and  the                                                               
prescribers  for  a  3-day  or  5-day  supply  would  remove  the                                                               
database  checks.   He stated  that the  proposed bill  was micro                                                               
managing the  professions of  medicine and  pharmacy, but  it did                                                               
not   help  for   the  actual   problem,  the   writing  of   the                                                               
prescription.    He  stated  that   the  proposed  bill  actually                                                               
exempted that  group from compliance  for checking  the database,                                                               
which was its purpose.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:02:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DANIEL NELSON, President,  Alaska Pharmacists Association, Tanana                                                               
Chiefs Conference, echoed the earlier  comments, stating that the                                                               
requirement  for  mandatory  PDMP   queries  by  pharmacists  and                                                               
prescribers was  overly onerous and  micro managing  the practice                                                               
of medicine  and pharmacy.   He recommended that the  language be                                                               
removed  from the  proposed  bill.   He stated  that  this was  a                                                               
duplicative  process, and  there was  not any  rationale for  the                                                               
pharmacist to check after the prescriber  had done so.  He stated                                                               
that  10  -   12  percent  of  prescriptions   written  were  for                                                               
controlled substances.   He estimated  that it would take  two to                                                               
three minutes  per query, which  was 3 -  4.5 hours daily  in his                                                               
pharmacy.   He reported  that Alaska  had one  of the  lowest per                                                               
capita prescriptions of opioids in the United States.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:05:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   SEATON  closed   public   testimony  on   HB  344   after                                                               
ascertaining no one further wished to testify.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[HB 344 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB234 ver A.PDF HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Sponsors statement telemedine.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Fiscal Note_DCCED-DOI_03.11.16.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Background_ Article- My Statesman from Austin American.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Background_FSMB_Telemedicine_Policy.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Background_Hudson-Presentation _ISER-UAA _Rural Telemedicine.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Background_telehealth & teleconsult_ NASHP_2015.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Background_telehealth factsheet_CMS.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Background_telehealth2015 NCSL.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Background_ANTHC-AFHCAN_Trail by Tundra-July-25-2014.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Background_ATA_50-state-telemedicine-gaps-analysis--physician-practice-standards-licensure American Telemedicine Association.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Background_AFHCAN - telemedicine project evaluation.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Support_AK-PA Letter_ 03-06-2016.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Support_Anne Norton_01.18.2016.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Support _ Anne Henry Letter_01.19.2016.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Support_ JAMHI letter_01.18.2016.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB 234 Support_various emails.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB234 Testimony _John DeRuyter - face to face concerns.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 234
HB260 Proposed Amendment A.2_Vazquez.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB 344 Sponsor Statement 3.11.16 ver N.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 344
HB 344 preoposed cs ver N.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 344
HB 344 Summary of Changes_Ver H to Ver N_3.14.2016.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 344
HB 344 Sectional_version N_3.14.2016.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 344
HB 344 Proposed amendment N.1_Seaton.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 344
HB260 Sectional Analysis.pdf HHSS 1/28/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB260 Hearing Request H-HSS 012016.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB260 Fiscal Note_DHSS-CCB-1-16-16.pdf HHSS 1/28/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB260 ver A.pdf HHSS 1/28/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB260 Sectional Analysis.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB260 Sponsor statement_Governor Transmittal Letter.pdf HHSS 1/28/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB260 Fiscal Note_DHSS-CCB-1-16-16.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB260 Hearing Request H-HSS 012016.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB260 Fiscal Note_DOR-PFD-01-19-2016.pdf HHSS 1/28/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 260
HB262 ver A.pdf HHSS 1/28/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 262
HB262 Sponsor Statement_Governor Transmittal Letter.pdf HHSS 1/28/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 262
HB262 Fiscal Note_DHSS-SBPP-1-16-16.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 262
HB262 Fiscal Note_DHSS-SBPP 1-23-16.pdf HHSS 1/28/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 262
HB262 Sectional Analysis.pdf HHSS 1/28/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 262
HB 262 Response to HB 262 Questions in 012816 H-HSS.pdf HHSS 2/4/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 262
HB 262 proposed cs_ver w.pdf HHSS 2/4/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 262
HB 262 Background Senior Benefits Fact Sheet.pdf HHSS 3/10/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 262
HB 262 DHSS to assest test question on 2.04.2016.pdf HHSS 3/10/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 262
HB 262 Background 2016 federal poverty level_Alaska.pdf HHSS 3/10/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 262
HB 237 Background_Compact FAQ_FSMB.pdf HHSS 1/26/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 237
HB 237 Fiscal Note_DCCED-CBPL_01-22-16.pdf HHSS 1/26/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 237
HB 237 Version A.pdf HHSS 1/26/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 237
HB 237 Background_Compact - state map and home page_FSMB.pdf HHSS 1/26/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 237
HB 237 Fiscal Note_DPS_DSS_01-13-16.pdf HHSS 1/26/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 237
HB 237 Sponsor Statement_01.25.2016.pdf HHSS 1/26/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 237
HB 237 Sectional Analysis.pdf HHSS 1/26/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 237
HB 237 Background_Medical Licensing timeframes_Research report_10.16.2015.pdf HHSS 1/26/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 237
HB 237 Background_Letter Dr Kusano_Licensing issues.pdf HHSS 1/28/2016 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 237
HB 237 DCCED response to Rep Vazquez questions_3.13.2016.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 237
HB 344 Testimony_AKPhA Letter of Concern.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 344
Hb 344 Testimony Ryan Ruggles_3.15.2016.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 344
HB 344 Letter_Express Scripts_2.29.2106.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 344
HB 344 Proposed amendment N.2_seaton.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 344
HB344 Testimony_ AK dental_3.15.2016.pdf HHSS 3/15/2016 3:00:00 PM
HB 344